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bally73 May 5th, 2008 08:50

todays football
 
just had a look at the football and the newcastle v's chelsea game is a bit of value i can see bet 365 have got chelsea to win 8-15 on the draw is 16-5 and newcastle to win is an incredible 5-1 to me that just screams value especially as it is at st james's park i had rangers to win the other night which again i thought was massive value at 4-1
tell me if i've got this wrong but 5-1 on a 2 horse race (so to speak) is a bet i'd take all day long
Lee

Tony2005 May 5th, 2008 09:31

I think the value is to bet Newcastle and the draw. This giving you the two options against the bookies one....

Even though i think Chelsea will win this 3-1....gl

TheCaptain May 5th, 2008 09:54

I have to say I tend to agree with Bally - Newcastle have scored 13 goals in their last 6 games, 7 in their last three home games, and have been 2-0 up in their last two home games at half time!

I think the Keegan management style is taking over and they are getting back to palying entertaining football - I.e., it does not matter if they conceed 3 if they score 4!!! Owen is back on form, so I think Newcastle could nick this -

Betfair are offering nearly 6-1 on this game for Newcastle and 100/30 on the Draw.

Just my twopenneth!

Would make this a smallish bet though

taylormade May 5th, 2008 10:03

Although the toon are playing a little better now,Chelsea have too much in midfield and cannot handle Drogba upfront.I think there will be goals in this game and unfortunately for me chelsea will be scoring them.Drogba first scorer @9/2 looks good value to me. gl

bennythedip2 May 5th, 2008 11:27

Lee there's a old saying in football
 
"Never bet against the home team" :h?: However i think Chelsea will win this game, maybe a good bet is the overs 3goals:brains:

Tony2005 May 5th, 2008 12:27

Have to agree with Taylor and Benny here, Chelsea are a different kettle of fish to the teams Newcastle have been playing over the last few weeks and i think Chelsea will expose their fragile defence today........3-1 to the SUPER BLUES....

bennythedip2 May 5th, 2008 16:24

Ballack scores
 
1 Attachment(s)
Oyi Oyi......... 2 now

Tony2005 May 5th, 2008 17:40

Well it was easy for Chelsea. Like i said thats the problem for Newcastle they have improved against poor teams but when they are stepped up to play against the top teams they are made to look very Average.
Need a big shake up there....Is Owen really the man to take them forward?
Not in my opinion.

bally73 May 5th, 2008 19:04

yep your right i'll hold my hands up \0/ hope nobody backed it :gn:

TheShark72 May 6th, 2008 08:41

My home town club Burton Albion take on Cambridge United tonight in the second leg of their Blue Square Playoff fixture.

The first leg on Friday night ended 2-2, with Burton holding a 2-0 leg until the last 15 minutes, having 2 goals disallowed and also Cambridge being awarded a very dubious penalty which got them back to 2-1 and an even more dubious freekick from which they equalised. On their fans website they (fair play as well) acknowledge how fortunate they had been and that to all intents and purposes this tie should be over.

My first value bet of this game is Daryl Clare to score at anytime for Burton (7/4 Bet365, 2/1 Ladbrokes). "The Dazzler" is Burton's leading scorer, talisman and more importantly penalty taker and in a game where chances could be plentiful, I reckon 2/1 is a cracking bet.

Burtons last two games have provided 12 goals between them and again I think goals will be plentiful - so the over 2.5 goals market should be taken with aplomb (17/20 Bet365) - the second leg between Torquay and Exeter yesterday yielded 5 goals yesterday, and with away goals not counting for anything, shutting up shop is not an option.

Burton do have a good record at Cambridge, W1 D2 L0 of last three visits, but im not convinced that Clough can lead them to Wembley. Cambridge eventually finished second in the Blue Square Prem and their fortunate comeback on Friday could suggest they have luck on their side. Burton have a habit of falling just short and being very creditable losers, and though my heart screams otherwise, my head says that Cambridge at Evs will progress....id prefer to take a price on winning the tie overall as opposed to a 90 minute price, as E/T and/or pens could settle it, but in the absence of these markets online, id favour the home side just prevailing over luckless Burton in 90 mins - i predict a 3-2 home win.

Wont be too disappointed if im wrong though...for me its very much a case of if i do my money i'll have a day out at Wembley to look forward to!!!

bennythedip2 May 6th, 2008 12:21

nice one shark
 
Hmmm..yes these kind of matches are always hard to predict, however you obviously follow your team and i like 1st goalscorers betting (Ronaldo:'D, if only) also the overs could be right........good luck to you and hope you get to Wembley:loveme:

TheShark72 May 6th, 2008 12:31

Does sound a bit of a biased opinion dont it...

Yes, i take more notice of Burton's games/results/etc being as i live a goal kick away from the ground - cannot claim to be a font of all knowledge about the Blue Square league in all honesty - but im not a Burton supporter - apart from the odd game i go to see when all else fails my football fervour lies totally and utterly with Derby County (no comments please!) and i'll go to Wembley for the crack value more than a dream come true kinda trip.....I had that last May.....o:D

Game is live on Sultana Sports if anyone cares to watch...and I hope my first contribution to the forum is a successful - partly if not wholly!!

bennythedip2 May 6th, 2008 14:21

Sharky just a thought
 
I've had a look at this game, i think a small saver on Lee McEvilly 7/1 first scorer (Striker on loan to Cambridge) to cover your bets:cool:

Tony2005 May 6th, 2008 14:55

His old man was shrewd........
 
And if there was ever a manager who could grind out a 1-0 win away from home it was "old big head", hopefully for you his son has the same ability and that helps you through to the final.

Only living 12 miles from Cambridge i should have an interest in them but i also only live 8 miles from Histon so i tend to follow them.

Cambridge have a good record at home and this should be a fair game and i think you have every chance of going through........gl

TheShark72 May 6th, 2008 18:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennythedip2 (Post 7240)
I've had a look at this game, i think a small saver on Lee McEvilly 7/1 first scorer (Striker on loan to Cambridge) to cover your bets:cool:

I invariably fail with first (or last) goalscorers, though fully agreed it wouldnt be the worst bet.

Tony, Clough Junior has done superbly well at Burton, having resisted many offers from bigger clubs - both Derby and Forest also if you believe the rumours. He seems set on his own agenda and I think is desperate to see Burton promoted - he's been backed by a superb Chairman and I think wants to see it through. I just have this feeling hes a good manager rather than a lucky one...i hope im wrong but i really think that Cambridge will find a way to face up to Exeter at Wembley even though Burton will have probably deserved it.

Tony2005 May 6th, 2008 18:27

Just read the Cambride evening post and they really fancy their chances.

A full house is expected around 8000 and they are saying that after conceedeing those late goals Fridays game will seem like a loss to you...

I think it will be very tough but Cloughie will see you through ...maybe after extra time..

TheShark72 May 6th, 2008 18:38

Cambridge 1-0 up after 32 seconds...Robert Wooleaston.....it really was never gonna be a 0-1 result!

Tony2005 May 6th, 2008 18:40

not the greatest start but doesnt make a lot of difference as you would have to have scored anyway.........this might be a god send

TheShark72 May 6th, 2008 19:05

1-1 - Daryl Clare 14 minutes.

Not sure if ive misunderstood Tony, but away goals dont count in the playoffs, so any draw will mean E/T - not just 2-2.

One more goal and 2 of my 3 bets will be up...cant be long in coming.

Tony2005 May 6th, 2008 19:15

looool, Shark what i ment was you were going to have to score tonight at sometime to even have a chance to go through..

Think that early goal might have woken you lot up..

TheShark72 May 6th, 2008 19:22

well, in theory we could have gone scoreless all the way through and gone through on penalties...but I (now!) know what you mean.

Burton handling Cambridge pretty well though and looking the better side....but then so they did on Friday.....

Tony2005 May 6th, 2008 19:47

Losing a goal so quick can sometimes be an advantage. It makes the other team come out and play, sometimes earlier then they want but at least they know what they have to do early.
Theres mothing worse then conceeding 10 mins from time after keeping a clean sheet for 80mins


Anyway did u 2 back my selections for tonight?

Tony2005 May 6th, 2008 19:54

what happened there? 2-1 ..........thats a fluke ment to cross it

TheShark72 May 6th, 2008 19:56

see my earlier comment about luck.

Tony2005 May 6th, 2008 20:03

Your playing much better now..............think extra time..

TheShark72 May 6th, 2008 20:10

well you can still get plenty over 3/1 if you do think Burton will equalise....28's if you think the Brewers can turn this round totally in the next 15 or so mins!!!!

Bet365 in play now offering a pip under 4/1 on the draw in 90 mins.....

Tony2005 May 6th, 2008 20:20

they need to push up and ...............NOW

Tony2005 May 6th, 2008 20:28

Unlucky Shark............think over the 90 mins the better team won though.

TheShark72 May 6th, 2008 20:36

aye...not necessarily over the 180 minutes though...:h?:

still, at least my analysis of the game tonight was spot on and the consolation of Burton losing (again) can be counted and stuffed into my wallet!!!!!

Tony2005 May 6th, 2008 22:30

looooool, yes tomorrow it will all be forgotton but the money will soften the blow...........


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